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>> gordon: cultural waves seem to be shifting. >> if you believe you should share your faith with someone, that is viewed by 60% of americans to be extremists. >> gordon: society says christians are the
problem. >> there are some challenging realities we have to address. >> gordon: what will the future look like? >> if we don't rise to the occasion, in 10 years it will be a different kind
of church. >> gordon: why researchers say good faith is the solution. on today's "700 club interactive." welcome to the show. for millions of people who grew up in church,
christianity has become background noise and this noise can be safely ignored. they are not exactly denying god, and yet they find christians irrelevant. >> terry: and another
group of americans think christians are not just irrelevant, but they're extremist. that has many of us asking how can christians be a force in the world that is increasingly hostile to our faith.
>> reporter: these people seemed to be extremists, the paris and brussels attackers, the boston marathon bombers. today, however, it is these people that increasing wear that label.
do you believe that jesus is the only way to heaven? you're an extremist. have you ever prayed for someone you don't know? believe that marriage is meant to be between one man and one woman? many people of faith are
finding it harder than ever to live out their convictions. they feel that religion is being pushed to the margins. david kinnamin and dave lions say don't dispair. they show you how in a new
book, "being a christian when society thinks your irrelevant and extreme." >> gordon: david kinnamin joins us now. and he is the co-author of "good faith." >> thanks for having me. >> gordon: why has
american culture become hostile to christians? >> i think the new religion is this sort of vacuum at the center. we don't want to have any religion at all dominating the airwaves. >> gordon: so let's
check none. >> let's have no religion. the fastest growing is the religiously unaffiliated. they're like, christianity has had its time, and let's push it to the 42% of americans say that people of faith are
actually part of the problem we're having in our culture today. and so let's side line them, let's marginalize them. in the past, the problem of irrelevance was faith wasn't that relevant -- a
person could have been a life-long goer of church, but they don't go anymore. if you can put it to the side, you can try to legislate around it. >> gordon: and you can also legislate against it, and that actually concerns
me. exactly. >> gordon: and one of my concerns is that it seems to be targeted specifically at christianity. if you just take christian out of whatever statement
is being made and insert muslim, that would then be attacked, that you're going after islam. and that's not proper, or buddhists -- or name any other religion. it just seems to be okay to trash christianity, but
it's not okay to go after these other religions. >> i've been at barna group now for 21 years, and the very first press release that i wrote was christianity has a strong positive image, despite fewer active participants.
your memory for these early things that you do in your professional life. and. >> congressman: christianity ha strong positive image. we interviewed like a million interviews over the 20 years i've been at
barna, and it is an amazing company, and part of the reason i wrote this book is because i'm actually really surprised at the speed with which christianity's image has changed. and not just that we can
ignore it because, been there, done that, but the degree to which christianity is being sidelined, it is the active sort of marginalization of christians and this idea we're social extremists.
and if you're trying to share your faith, 60% of americans would say that is extremist, or if you were trying to pray for a stranger. we're trying to give christians permission to be irrelevant and extreme
as christ calls us to be. >> gordon: i want to get back to the point, why the double standard? because there does seem to be a double standard. just anyone who stands up to say, what islam is doing to women in saudi
arabia is wrong. if you were to do that, i think you would be labelled extremist by making that statement. even though the very facts on the ground in saudi arabia -- you can't vote, you can't drive.
and there are all kinds of things women can't do in that culture. why the double standard? >> i think we're living in an era when the media sort of dominates the way stories are being told. and this generation didn't
really understand the way in which sort of these realities occur. if you think about this, our spiritual side to our world -- our adversary can't create anything. he can only deceive people.
he can only distort things. it feels like there is tons of distortions that are entering into our equation. 89% say you shouldn't criticize someone else's life choices.
i think the double standard is such that we're living in a spiritually contentious time, as human beings have always done, but it is being focused now on christianity in north america because we have
had a lot of cultural power. and that power is now slipping away. and so the government and other kinds of forces of power, even social media, and the way the next generation views
christianity, it is changing the power. it is changing the way christians have exercised >> gordon: all right. i'm actually thinking there is a new term arriving, that orthodox christianity -- and i
never thought that would ever come out of me -- you actually believe the bible. and if you're orthodox in your beliefs, is there -- what do you do with the temptation to sort of hun hunker down and pull back
and say, if the culture is going to go this way, let them go, and we're just going to go to the mountain or try to find some hidden valley to dwell in. what do you do with that? >> i think certainly this
idea of being separate from the world. some christian communities, the amish come to mind, have chosen that path. that is one path to faithful living in the world today, is to be
separate from the world. for most of us as believers, in today's cities and in context, that is not really the option we're likely to choose. we think there is a way to be faithful, to be
orthodox, to hold to these historic truths. we actually think that so many of these things will turn out to be a dead end for today's culture, the ideas about sex and sexuality, the idea about how it is we live as
flourishing human beings, and that these all need to be rethought. and all millennials are waiting for these deeper answers, these orthodox answers. >> when do you think the culture is going to wake
up, and actually, we've been here before as a species. and all you have to do is look at greek history, and roman history, and you'll find this kind of pleasure seeking, and christianity actually survived, and not
only survived, but thrived and then became the dominant thought of let's not do that. let's not give into that. let's live a righteous and holy life. >> it is hard to predict based on the trends, when
people will wake up to that. there can be economic crisis or health crisis or other kinds of things. we see that people individually wake up to those things, that spiritual transformation
happens every day across the country. in individual lives. maybe not cultural-wide. that's what each family and church leader and christian could aspire to. we're not called to change the whole culture, but we
are called to be in the individual relations that god called us to be in. what kind of church will we have in 100 years? how can we build media companies and schools and colleges and structures that can last in this new
kind of exile-type experience. because we're not the majority anymore. how do we live in a religiously plural culture. i think daniel in the old testament is a great
example who gives us faithfulness under pressure, and serves as secretary of state under three different regimes, but he is faithful to yahweh. i think this faithfulness, being counter-cultural,
and serving the needs of our communities, building great businesses, being the very best neighbors, those are some of the things that could define us in this era of skepticism. >> gordon: in is a
goodpoint. the church in 100 years in america will likely be hispanic. the demographics are pretty unavoidable. >> and there are incredible signs of growth among catholic hispanics,
as well as among catholic hispanics converting to protestantism. the hispanic christian future in america is really growing. >> gordon: the book, "good faith, being a christian when society
thinks your irrelevant and extreme," and david has put together a wonderful book. i encourage you to get it. it is available wherever books are being sold. we want to keep this conversation going, so
immediately following the show today, some of our producers will be going live on facebook, and they want to hear from you on this question: how can we be effective christians when society thinks we're irrelevant or extreme.
david, thank you. >> thank you. my pleasure to be here. >> gordon: god bless you. terry, over to you. >> terry: coming up, a travelling evangelist in uganda meets ina.
>> in about 14 minutes, he said, i want to give my life to the lord. >> terry: how did his village, known for its witchcraft, respond? find out after this. >> gordon: in the african nation of uganda,
spiritual warfare is real. and witch doctors control entire vil laisms. villages. as steve little shows us in the latest "under the radar," they're no match for the gospel of jesus christ.
>> reporter: these are the stories of believers, stepping up and stepping outside church walls. not looking for attention; simply loving the way jesus did. this is "under the radar." peter was a travelling
evangelist, and inoc was a witch doctor. >> this one particular village, in a district in a whole country that had a lot of witchcraft. everybody that talked about it knew that the people that lived there,
these are people that would bewitch you and you would die in a short time. >> reporter: one day peter told him to teach the gospel in that village. and what happened? >> i said i'm here to tell
people about jesus. and i didn't know he was a and he told me, please tell me about the lord. in about 40 minutes, he i said, wow, this is quick. so we prayed together. >> reporter: soon inoc
led his wife and daughter to the lord. >> so peter started a bible study in his house. >> in the course of one year, we had about 35 people that had given their lives to the lord. >> reporter: you know
what happened next. >> on the 25th of december 2008, the church was started then. >> reporter: today, the church started by the evangelist and the one-time witch doctor helps fight spiritual
darkness in uganda. but that is a story for the next time. this is steve little for "under the radar." >> gordon: evidence that even in the most difficult circumstances, the power of god is able to prevail.
and churches are being born. we need to recognize that we're in the greatest revival the church has ever seen. this is an amazing time. the final in-gathering of the gentiles.
what the apostle powell prophesied is happening today. and we need to rejoice at what is going on around the world. >> terry: boy, that is for sure. it is exciting to see
a good thing to remember on the heels of our own culture going through transition, right? >>> every day taylor put his life on the line. he was a deep sea diver who had to provide for his family.
even though his job was dangerous, it still didn't put enough on the table to eat. 7-year-old dito waits on the shores in southern thailand, wondering if this is the day his father will come home.
>> i miss my daddy a lot. mommy and i always pray for him. i wish daddy were here every day. >> terry: his father dives for a living, using a single hose attached to a compressor.
he must swim up to 130 feet below the surface and stay under water for an hour. he is looking for an asian delicacy. many have died or been paralyzed doing this. he says he has been lucky
so far. he earns just $4 a day for the risky job. >> if i hadn't taken the job, my family would have nothing to eat. there are no other jobs here. i still have to borrow
money for food. >> terry: back home, taylor's wife tries to repair their fishing net. they own a small fishing boat, but with no motor. catching larger fish to sell is almost impossible. >> every time my husband
leaves, we wonder if he will come home safely. we don't want him to go, but we need the money. >> terry: the couple realized they needed to ask for help. that's when cbn's "orphans' promise" started
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you by sending you this. gordon? >> gordon: still ahead, she was ashamed. >> it was itching to thepoint of practically seeing blood. but it was too embarrassing.
>> gordon: and she couldn't do anything about it. hear what gave her back her life, after this. >> terry: sandra's skin was, well, embarrassing. the young mother had rashes and blisters that
covered her body and forced her to stay indoors. and no matter how many creams and meds the doctors described, nothing worked, until she heard gordon give a word of knowledge.
>> it was itching to the point of actually seeing blood. i wasn't going out because it was too embarrassing. >> reporter: in 2006, sandra went to the doctor to find a relief for a severe rash on her legs.
>> i was explaining the symptoms to the doctor, and he just told me, well, it's a form of eczema. he said it can just gradually come about. and the best he can do was to prescribe some creams for me.
>> reporter: the over the counter cream that the doctor prescribed didn't work. that summer new symptoms appeared. >> i noticed blisters on my hands. so i went back to the
doctor. and he said, yes, this is another form of eczema and it comes out in the heat. >> reporter: her doctor prescribed more creams. >> the doctors were pretty negative. they just said that that's
all they could do, and i would have to live with i was too self-conscious. it was too embarrassly. i wouldn't do anything. >> reporter: sandra lived with the itching and embarrassment for two years.
during this time she started praying and reading her bieblg. >> matthew says, i take care of the birds in the air, the flowers, how much more will i take care of you? that kept coming around in
my head. i said, i know he loves me, so i'll just keep praying. that's all i can do. >> reporter: then one day she was watching "the 700 club." >> then the word of
knowledge came on, and gordon started talking about someone with eczema. >> gordon: you have a skin condition and it is causing bubbles on the skin. they're, like, filled with fluids, and god is healing
he is taking that all away from you right now. in jesus' name. >> terry: thank you, lord. >> gordon: be healed. amen. >> i kind of jumped up and down claiming it.
i couldn't believe it. out of everyone that was watching, you paid attention to me. i knew god was doing something for me. as soon as i started feeling the tingling on my legs, i knew it was
happening. he was healing me. maybe wasn't right away. but he was working. >> reporter: within six months, all of her symptoms of eczema were completely gone. >> my confidence came
back. i was not embarrassed anymore. i was very excited. offers encouragement on anyone waiting on god for healing. >> i would say, don't give up.
certainly pray. and talk to jesus. he's the best person to go to. he is your creator. he is a big god. i know god heals today because he healed me. >> terry: and he can
heal you, too. we've received some prayer requests on facebook, and before we pray today, we just want to share those with you so we can all pray together as ingrid writes, "please pray for me.
the doctors found some nodules in my thyroid and i will have a biopsy on june 7th. please pray it isn't cancer and for complete healing and peace of mind." julie says, "my
one-month-old cooper is going for testing for cystic fibrosis. please pray all of the tests of neglect." >> gordon: and darius says, "please pray for the refugees coming into germany as we work to save
them, and make jesus known to them so they can accept him as their savior. i am a voluntary missionary." let's pray and realize that god pays attention to he knows the very hairs on your head.
he has every one of them numbered. if he cares for the birds of the air -- that's what jesus said, if he cares for them, how much more does he care about you? how much more are you valuable to him?
all we have to do is believe that and dwell in that and understand that. and then everything else comes into place. so we're going to pray. we're going to pray for these requests, and we're going to pray for you.
so join with us in prayer, and there is this wonderful verse, if two or more agree, it shall be done by our father in heaven. so terry and i are going to agree. the audience is going to
agree. you join in and let's agree together and see what god will do. let's pray. lord, we just lift the needs, the ones that have been written in right now. we pray for ingrid and we
ask for complete healing for her and for cooper. you just treasure him. be with them now, lord god. let your presence surround them and be all over them and in them, and stretch forth your hand to do
miracles and wonders, signs and wonders, miracles on the earth, lord god. let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. and now for the refugees coming into germany, for those in greece,
macedonia, for all of them, we just ask that you would reveal yourself to open their eyes, lord god, that they may see. open their ears that they may hear your voice. give them a heart of understanding so that they
would turn and find salvation with you. and now for those who are watching, we just declare over them that you are the answer to every human need. you provide for all. you show no partiality.
you're not a respecter of persons. you want to come to them right now and love them. so, jesus, manifest yourself right in their presence now. and open their eyes that they can see.
open their ears so they can turn and you would heal them. terry, you've got a word? >> terry: i want to pray that those who are hearing would become obedient. that, holy spirit, you would breathe that fresh
life into their hearts that says, i want to follow jesus. give faith and courage -- faith to believe for those who have stood on shallow ground and rocky ground, pray that they would set their feet on the rock of
jesus christ. >> gordon: there is a woman named marjorie who is seeing flashes of light. you've been diagnosed with a detached retina. and you're concerned about going blind.
jesus wants to call you by name and let you know he is healing that. you're not going to go blind. you're going to see perfectly in jesus' name. amen and amen. right after the show,
we'll be live on facebook, and we want to hear from you on the topic: how can we be effective christians when society thinks we're just go to facebook.com. that's all of the time we have.
god bless you. we'll see you again tomorrow.
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